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Deflategate probe suggests Patriots' pussy Tom Brady aware of tampering, but clears Bill Belichick
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Cheat 2 Compete
2015-05-06 20:52:23 UTC
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Coach Cheater escapes again.

An investigation into the so-called Deflategate scandal
concluded it is more likely than not that New England Patriots
quarterback Tom Brady "was at least generally aware of the
inappropriate activities" by two team employees that resulted in
balls being deflated in January's AFC Championship Game against
the Indianapolis Colts.

The report, released Wednesday by attorney Ted Wells, found "it
is more probable than not that Jim McNally and John Jastremski
participated in a deliberate plan to circumvent the rules by
releasing air from Patriots game balls," but found no wrongdoing
by Patriots ownership, coach Bill Belichick and his assistants,
or equipment manager Dave Schoenfeld.

Patriots owner Robert Kraft issued an immediate response, saying
the organization is disappointed by the report, which lacked
"any incontrovertible or hard evidence of deliberate deflation
of footballs" after a more than three-month investigation.

In a statement released in conjunction with the report,
Commissioner Roger Goodell said NFL executive vice president
Troy Vincent and his team "will consider what steps to take in
light of the report, both with respect to possible disciplinary
action and to any changes in protocols that are necessary to
avoid future incidents of this type.

PDF: Findings from Ted Wells Deflategate investigation

"At the same time, we will continue our efforts vigorously to
protect the integrity of the game and promote fair play at all
times."

Asked for comment, the Colts had little to day, offering: "The
Indianapolis Colts are aware of the findings in the Wells Report
and have no comment."

The report includes text messages between McNally, the 48-year-
old officials locker room attendant for the Patriots, and
Jastremski, a 35-year-old equipment assistant, in which McNally
outs himself "the deflator" and the two friends discuss Brady's
complaints about the inflation level of game balls in an Oct. 17
game against the New York Jets.

Brady, 37, signed autographs for the pair after the Patriots'
divisional playoff win against the Baltimore Ravens in January,
the report said, and communicated with McNally by phone or text
message "with significantly increased frequency" in the days
after suspicions arose publicly — conversations that were then
shared in texts between McNally and Jastremski.

The report notes "there is less direct evidence linking Brady to
tampering activities than either McNally or Jastremski." But
after interviews with those two, investigators "do not believe
that they would personally and unilaterally engage in such
conduct in the absence of Brady?s awareness and consent."

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Most of the balls New England used in the first half of the AFC
title game against the Colts fell below the league-mandated
threshold of 12.5 pounds per square inch, theoretically making
them easier to grip in adverse weather conditions.

Colts general manager Ryan Grigson confirmed at the NFL's
scouting combine in February that his team alerted the league to
its concern during the week prior to the game.

The Patriots vigorously defended themselves in the days
following their 45-7 defeat of the Colts. Both Belichick and
Brady denied any wrongdoing or knowledge of the underinflated
balls.

"I would never do anything to break the rules," Brady said at
the time. "I believe in fair play, and I respect the league."

Kraft defiantly touted the integrity of Brady and Belichick when
the team arrived in Arizona for Super Bowl XLIX and made it
clear he expected an apology from the league in the event the
Patriots were absolved of any wrongdoing.

"I want to make it clear that I believe unconditionally that the
New England Patriots have done nothing inappropriate in this
process that were in violation of NFL rules," Kraft said Jan.
26. "Tom, Bill and I have been together for 15 years. They are
my guys. They are part of my family, and Bill, Tom and I have
had many difficult discussions over the years, and I have never
known them to lie to me. That is why I am confident in saying
what I just said.

"It bothers me greatly that their reputations and integrity and,
by association, that of our team, has been called into question."

***

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lategate-bill-belichick-tom-brady-underinflated-balls-robert-
kraft-new-england-colts/22216585/
Cheat 2 Compete
2015-05-07 17:48:04 UTC
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Post by Cheat 2 Compete
Coach Cheater escapes again.
An investigation into the so-called Deflategate scandal
concluded it is more likely than not that New England Patriots
quarterback Tom Brady "was at least generally aware of the
inappropriate activities" by two team employees that resulted in
balls being deflated in January's AFC Championship Game against
the Indianapolis Colts.
The report, released Wednesday by attorney Ted Wells, found "it
is more probable than not that Jim McNally and John Jastremski
participated in a deliberate plan to circumvent the rules by
releasing air from Patriots game balls," but found no wrongdoing
by Patriots ownership, coach Bill Belichick and his assistants,
or equipment manager Dave Schoenfeld.
Patriots owner Robert Kraft issued an immediate response, saying
the organization is disappointed by the report, which lacked
"any incontrovertible or hard evidence of deliberate deflation
of footballs" after a more than three-month investigation.
In a statement released in conjunction with the report,
Commissioner Roger Goodell said NFL executive vice president
Troy Vincent and his team "will consider what steps to take in
light of the report, both with respect to possible disciplinary
action and to any changes in protocols that are necessary to
avoid future incidents of this type.
PDF: Findings from Ted Wells Deflategate investigation
"At the same time, we will continue our efforts vigorously to
protect the integrity of the game and promote fair play at all
times."
Asked for comment, the Colts had little to day, offering: "The
Indianapolis Colts are aware of the findings in the Wells Report
and have no comment."
The report includes text messages between McNally, the 48-year-
old officials locker room attendant for the Patriots, and
Jastremski, a 35-year-old equipment assistant, in which McNally
outs himself "the deflator" and the two friends discuss Brady's
complaints about the inflation level of game balls in an Oct. 17
game against the New York Jets.
Brady, 37, signed autographs for the pair after the Patriots'
divisional playoff win against the Baltimore Ravens in January,
the report said, and communicated with McNally by phone or text
message "with significantly increased frequency" in the days
after suspicions arose publicly -- conversations that were then
shared in texts between McNally and Jastremski.
The report notes "there is less direct evidence linking Brady to
tampering activities than either McNally or Jastremski." But
after interviews with those two, investigators "do not believe
that they would personally and unilaterally engage in such
conduct in the absence of Brady?s awareness and consent."
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-
/f4558353fe80f94da2b69116c92a0cb66bccdc06/c=324-77-2828-
1960&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-
/media/2015/01/23/USATODAY/USATODAY/635576090676929904-AP-Super-
Bowl-Footballs.jpg
Most of the balls New England used in the first half of the AFC
title game against the Colts fell below the league-mandated
threshold of 12.5 pounds per square inch, theoretically making
them easier to grip in adverse weather conditions.
Colts general manager Ryan Grigson confirmed at the NFL's
scouting combine in February that his team alerted the league to
its concern during the week prior to the game.
The Patriots vigorously defended themselves in the days
following their 45-7 defeat of the Colts. Both Belichick and
Brady denied any wrongdoing or knowledge of the underinflated
balls.
"I would never do anything to break the rules," Brady said at
the time. "I believe in fair play, and I respect the league."
Kraft defiantly touted the integrity of Brady and Belichick when
the team arrived in Arizona for Super Bowl XLIX and made it
clear he expected an apology from the league in the event the
Patriots were absolved of any wrongdoing.
"I want to make it clear that I believe unconditionally that the
New England Patriots have done nothing inappropriate in this
process that were in violation of NFL rules," Kraft said Jan.
26. "Tom, Bill and I have been together for 15 years. They are
my guys. They are part of my family, and Bill, Tom and I have
had many difficult discussions over the years, and I have never
known them to lie to me. That is why I am confident in saying
what I just said.
"It bothers me greatly that their reputations and integrity and,
by association, that of our team, has been called into question."
***
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2015/05/06/def
lategate-bill-belichick-tom-brady-underinflated-balls-robert-
kraft-new-england-colts/22216585/
In other word the report's findings were , generally speaking, inconclusive.
Contrived to be so.

Goodell kept his lips firmly attached to Kraft cock.
John Walsh
2015-05-08 00:37:42 UTC
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On Wed, 6 May 2015 22:52:23 +0200 (CEST), "Cheat 2 Compete"
Post by Cheat 2 Compete
Coach Cheater escapes again.
An investigation into the so-called Deflategate scandal
concluded it is more likely than not that New England Patriots
quarterback Tom Brady "was at least generally aware of the
inappropriate activities" by two team employees that resulted in
balls being deflated in January's AFC Championship Game against
the Indianapolis Colts.
The report, released Wednesday by attorney Ted Wells, found "it
is more probable than not that Jim McNally and John Jastremski
participated in a deliberate plan to circumvent the rules by
releasing air from Patriots game balls," but found no wrongdoing
by Patriots ownership, coach Bill Belichick and his assistants,
or equipment manager Dave Schoenfeld.
Patriots owner Robert Kraft issued an immediate response, saying
the organization is disappointed by the report, which lacked
"any incontrovertible or hard evidence of deliberate deflation
of footballs" after a more than three-month investigation.
In a statement released in conjunction with the report,
Commissioner Roger Goodell said NFL executive vice president
Troy Vincent and his team "will consider what steps to take in
light of the report, both with respect to possible disciplinary
action and to any changes in protocols that are necessary to
avoid future incidents of this type.
PDF: Findings from Ted Wells Deflategate investigation
"At the same time, we will continue our efforts vigorously to
protect the integrity of the game and promote fair play at all
times."
Asked for comment, the Colts had little to day, offering: "The
Indianapolis Colts are aware of the findings in the Wells Report
and have no comment."
The report includes text messages between McNally, the 48-year-
old officials locker room attendant for the Patriots, and
Jastremski, a 35-year-old equipment assistant, in which McNally
outs himself "the deflator" and the two friends discuss Brady's
complaints about the inflation level of game balls in an Oct. 17
game against the New York Jets.
Brady, 37, signed autographs for the pair after the Patriots'
divisional playoff win against the Baltimore Ravens in January,
the report said, and communicated with McNally by phone or text
message "with significantly increased frequency" in the days
after suspicions arose publicly — conversations that were then
shared in texts between McNally and Jastremski.
The report notes "there is less direct evidence linking Brady to
tampering activities than either McNally or Jastremski." But
after interviews with those two, investigators "do not believe
that they would personally and unilaterally engage in such
conduct in the absence of Brady?s awareness and consent."
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-
/f4558353fe80f94da2b69116c92a0cb66bccdc06/c=324-77-2828-
1960&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-
/media/2015/01/23/USATODAY/USATODAY/635576090676929904-AP-Super-
Bowl-Footballs.jpg
Most of the balls New England used in the first half of the AFC
title game against the Colts fell below the league-mandated
threshold of 12.5 pounds per square inch, theoretically making
them easier to grip in adverse weather conditions.
Colts general manager Ryan Grigson confirmed at the NFL's
scouting combine in February that his team alerted the league to
its concern during the week prior to the game.
The Patriots vigorously defended themselves in the days
following their 45-7 defeat of the Colts. Both Belichick and
Brady denied any wrongdoing or knowledge of the underinflated
balls.
"I would never do anything to break the rules," Brady said at
the time. "I believe in fair play, and I respect the league."
Kraft defiantly touted the integrity of Brady and Belichick when
the team arrived in Arizona for Super Bowl XLIX and made it
clear he expected an apology from the league in the event the
Patriots were absolved of any wrongdoing.
"I want to make it clear that I believe unconditionally that the
New England Patriots have done nothing inappropriate in this
process that were in violation of NFL rules," Kraft said Jan.
26. "Tom, Bill and I have been together for 15 years. They are
my guys. They are part of my family, and Bill, Tom and I have
had many difficult discussions over the years, and I have never
known them to lie to me. That is why I am confident in saying
what I just said.
"It bothers me greatly that their reputations and integrity and,
by association, that of our team, has been called into question."
***
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2015/05/06/def
lategate-bill-belichick-tom-brady-underinflated-balls-robert-
kraft-new-england-colts/22216585/
Other than you being an idiot, there's not much interesting about the
whole thing. Well, unless you're the media and I'm pretty sure you're
not the media. However, whine on since it's the off season there's
not much else to do.
Cheat 2 Compete
2015-05-08 07:16:44 UTC
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Post by John Walsh
On Wed, 6 May 2015 22:52:23 +0200 (CEST), "Cheat 2 Compete"
Post by Cheat 2 Compete
Coach Cheater escapes again.
An investigation into the so-called Deflategate scandal
concluded it is more likely than not that New England Patriots
quarterback Tom Brady "was at least generally aware of the
inappropriate activities" by two team employees that resulted in
balls being deflated in January's AFC Championship Game against
the Indianapolis Colts.
The report, released Wednesday by attorney Ted Wells, found "it
is more probable than not that Jim McNally and John Jastremski
participated in a deliberate plan to circumvent the rules by
releasing air from Patriots game balls," but found no wrongdoing
by Patriots ownership, coach Bill Belichick and his assistants,
or equipment manager Dave Schoenfeld.
Patriots owner Robert Kraft issued an immediate response, saying
the organization is disappointed by the report, which lacked
"any incontrovertible or hard evidence of deliberate deflation
of footballs" after a more than three-month investigation.
In a statement released in conjunction with the report,
Commissioner Roger Goodell said NFL executive vice president
Troy Vincent and his team "will consider what steps to take in
light of the report, both with respect to possible disciplinary
action and to any changes in protocols that are necessary to
avoid future incidents of this type.
PDF: Findings from Ted Wells Deflategate investigation
"At the same time, we will continue our efforts vigorously to
protect the integrity of the game and promote fair play at all
times."
Asked for comment, the Colts had little to day, offering: "The
Indianapolis Colts are aware of the findings in the Wells Report
and have no comment."
The report includes text messages between McNally, the 48-year-
old officials locker room attendant for the Patriots, and
Jastremski, a 35-year-old equipment assistant, in which McNally
outs himself "the deflator" and the two friends discuss Brady's
complaints about the inflation level of game balls in an Oct. 17
game against the New York Jets.
Brady, 37, signed autographs for the pair after the Patriots'
divisional playoff win against the Baltimore Ravens in January,
the report said, and communicated with McNally by phone or text
message "with significantly increased frequency" in the days
after suspicions arose publicly — conversations that were then
shared in texts between McNally and Jastremski.
The report notes "there is less direct evidence linking Brady to
tampering activities than either McNally or Jastremski." But
after interviews with those two, investigators "do not believe
that they would personally and unilaterally engage in such
conduct in the absence of Brady?s awareness and consent."
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-
/f4558353fe80f94da2b69116c92a0cb66bccdc06/c=324-77-2828-
1960&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-
/media/2015/01/23/USATODAY/USATODAY/635576090676929904-AP-Super-
Bowl-Footballs.jpg
Most of the balls New England used in the first half of the AFC
title game against the Colts fell below the league-mandated
threshold of 12.5 pounds per square inch, theoretically making
them easier to grip in adverse weather conditions.
Colts general manager Ryan Grigson confirmed at the NFL's
scouting combine in February that his team alerted the league to
its concern during the week prior to the game.
The Patriots vigorously defended themselves in the days
following their 45-7 defeat of the Colts. Both Belichick and
Brady denied any wrongdoing or knowledge of the underinflated
balls.
"I would never do anything to break the rules," Brady said at
the time. "I believe in fair play, and I respect the league."
Kraft defiantly touted the integrity of Brady and Belichick when
the team arrived in Arizona for Super Bowl XLIX and made it
clear he expected an apology from the league in the event the
Patriots were absolved of any wrongdoing.
"I want to make it clear that I believe unconditionally that the
New England Patriots have done nothing inappropriate in this
process that were in violation of NFL rules," Kraft said Jan.
26. "Tom, Bill and I have been together for 15 years. They are
my guys. They are part of my family, and Bill, Tom and I have
had many difficult discussions over the years, and I have never
known them to lie to me. That is why I am confident in saying
what I just said.
"It bothers me greatly that their reputations and integrity and,
by association, that of our team, has been called into question."
***
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2015/05/06/def
lategate-bill-belichick-tom-brady-underinflated-balls-robert-
kraft-new-england-colts/22216585/
Other than you being an idiot, there's not much interesting about the
whole thing. Well, unless you're the media and I'm pretty sure you're
not the media. However, whine on since it's the off season there's
not much else to do.
I'm in the right company then, eh John boy?

Put in another perspective, Tom Brady is superior to Joe Montana
since he's been to six Superbowls.

Of course three of those Superbowls were won on the foot of a
kicker...who was traded because he was casting a larger shadow
than Brady and Belicheat.
euphemism
2015-05-09 16:25:43 UTC
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Post by John Walsh
On Wed, 6 May 2015 22:52:23 +0200 (CEST), "Cheat 2 Compete"
Post by Cheat 2 Compete
Coach Cheater escapes again.
An investigation into the so-called Deflategate scandal
concluded it is more likely than not that New England Patriots
quarterback Tom Brady "was at least generally aware of the
inappropriate activities" by two team employees that resulted in
balls being deflated in January's AFC Championship Game against
the Indianapolis Colts.
The report, released Wednesday by attorney Ted Wells, found "it
is more probable than not that Jim McNally and John Jastremski
participated in a deliberate plan to circumvent the rules by
releasing air from Patriots game balls," but found no wrongdoing
by Patriots ownership, coach Bill Belichick and his assistants,
or equipment manager Dave Schoenfeld.
Patriots owner Robert Kraft issued an immediate response, saying
the organization is disappointed by the report, which lacked
"any incontrovertible or hard evidence of deliberate deflation
of footballs" after a more than three-month investigation.
In a statement released in conjunction with the report,
Commissioner Roger Goodell said NFL executive vice president
Troy Vincent and his team "will consider what steps to take in
light of the report, both with respect to possible disciplinary
action and to any changes in protocols that are necessary to
avoid future incidents of this type.
PDF: Findings from Ted Wells Deflategate investigation
"At the same time, we will continue our efforts vigorously to
protect the integrity of the game and promote fair play at all
times."
Asked for comment, the Colts had little to day, offering: "The
Indianapolis Colts are aware of the findings in the Wells Report
and have no comment."
The report includes text messages between McNally, the 48-year-
old officials locker room attendant for the Patriots, and
Jastremski, a 35-year-old equipment assistant, in which McNally
outs himself "the deflator" and the two friends discuss Brady's
complaints about the inflation level of game balls in an Oct. 17
game against the New York Jets.
Brady, 37, signed autographs for the pair after the Patriots'
divisional playoff win against the Baltimore Ravens in January,
the report said, and communicated with McNally by phone or text
message "with significantly increased frequency" in the days
after suspicions arose publicly — conversations that were then
shared in texts between McNally and Jastremski.
The report notes "there is less direct evidence linking Brady to
tampering activities than either McNally or Jastremski." But
after interviews with those two, investigators "do not believe
that they would personally and unilaterally engage in such
conduct in the absence of Brady?s awareness and consent."
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-
/f4558353fe80f94da2b69116c92a0cb66bccdc06/c=324-77-2828-
1960&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-
/media/2015/01/23/USATODAY/USATODAY/635576090676929904-AP-Super-
Bowl-Footballs.jpg
Most of the balls New England used in the first half of the AFC
title game against the Colts fell below the league-mandated
threshold of 12.5 pounds per square inch, theoretically making
them easier to grip in adverse weather conditions.
Colts general manager Ryan Grigson confirmed at the NFL's
scouting combine in February that his team alerted the league to
its concern during the week prior to the game.
The Patriots vigorously defended themselves in the days
following their 45-7 defeat of the Colts. Both Belichick and
Brady denied any wrongdoing or knowledge of the underinflated
balls.
"I would never do anything to break the rules," Brady said at
the time. "I believe in fair play, and I respect the league."
Kraft defiantly touted the integrity of Brady and Belichick when
the team arrived in Arizona for Super Bowl XLIX and made it
clear he expected an apology from the league in the event the
Patriots were absolved of any wrongdoing.
"I want to make it clear that I believe unconditionally that the
New England Patriots have done nothing inappropriate in this
process that were in violation of NFL rules," Kraft said Jan.
26. "Tom, Bill and I have been together for 15 years. They are
my guys. They are part of my family, and Bill, Tom and I have
had many difficult discussions over the years, and I have never
known them to lie to me. That is why I am confident in saying
what I just said.
"It bothers me greatly that their reputations and integrity and,
by association, that of our team, has been called into question."
***
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2015/05/06/def
lategate-bill-belichick-tom-brady-underinflated-balls-robert-
kraft-new-england-colts/22216585/
Other than you being an idiot, there's not much interesting about the
whole thing. Well, unless you're the media and I'm pretty sure you're
not the media. However, whine on since it's the off season there's
not much else to do.
Not much interesting in a suspension for Brady? I think you don't
actually believe that... you just don't know what else to say.
J Lunis
2015-05-09 16:29:04 UTC
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Post by John Walsh
On Wed, 6 May 2015 22:52:23 +0200 (CEST), "Cheat 2 Compete"
Post by Cheat 2 Compete
Coach Cheater escapes again.
An investigation into the so-called Deflategate scandal
concluded it is more likely than not that New England Patriots
quarterback Tom Brady "was at least generally aware of the
inappropriate activities" by two team employees that resulted in
balls being deflated in January's AFC Championship Game against
the Indianapolis Colts.
The report, released Wednesday by attorney Ted Wells, found "it
is more probable than not that Jim McNally and John Jastremski
participated in a deliberate plan to circumvent the rules by
releasing air from Patriots game balls," but found no wrongdoing
by Patriots ownership, coach Bill Belichick and his assistants,
or equipment manager Dave Schoenfeld.
Patriots owner Robert Kraft issued an immediate response, saying
the organization is disappointed by the report, which lacked
"any incontrovertible or hard evidence of deliberate deflation
of footballs" after a more than three-month investigation.
In a statement released in conjunction with the report,
Commissioner Roger Goodell said NFL executive vice president
Troy Vincent and his team "will consider what steps to take in
light of the report, both with respect to possible disciplinary
action and to any changes in protocols that are necessary to
avoid future incidents of this type.
PDF: Findings from Ted Wells Deflategate investigation
"At the same time, we will continue our efforts vigorously to
protect the integrity of the game and promote fair play at all
times."
Asked for comment, the Colts had little to day, offering: "The
Indianapolis Colts are aware of the findings in the Wells Report
and have no comment."
The report includes text messages between McNally, the 48-year-
old officials locker room attendant for the Patriots, and
Jastremski, a 35-year-old equipment assistant, in which McNally
outs himself "the deflator" and the two friends discuss Brady's
complaints about the inflation level of game balls in an Oct. 17
game against the New York Jets.
Brady, 37, signed autographs for the pair after the Patriots'
divisional playoff win against the Baltimore Ravens in January,
the report said, and communicated with McNally by phone or text
message "with significantly increased frequency" in the days
after suspicions arose publicly — conversations that were then
shared in texts between McNally and Jastremski.
The report notes "there is less direct evidence linking Brady to
tampering activities than either McNally or Jastremski." But
after interviews with those two, investigators "do not believe
that they would personally and unilaterally engage in such
conduct in the absence of Brady?s awareness and consent."
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-
/f4558353fe80f94da2b69116c92a0cb66bccdc06/c=324-77-2828-
1960&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-
/media/2015/01/23/USATODAY/USATODAY/635576090676929904-AP-Super-
Bowl-Footballs.jpg
Most of the balls New England used in the first half of the AFC
title game against the Colts fell below the league-mandated
threshold of 12.5 pounds per square inch, theoretically making
them easier to grip in adverse weather conditions.
Colts general manager Ryan Grigson confirmed at the NFL's
scouting combine in February that his team alerted the league to
its concern during the week prior to the game.
The Patriots vigorously defended themselves in the days
following their 45-7 defeat of the Colts. Both Belichick and
Brady denied any wrongdoing or knowledge of the underinflated
balls.
"I would never do anything to break the rules," Brady said at
the time. "I believe in fair play, and I respect the league."
Kraft defiantly touted the integrity of Brady and Belichick when
the team arrived in Arizona for Super Bowl XLIX and made it
clear he expected an apology from the league in the event the
Patriots were absolved of any wrongdoing.
"I want to make it clear that I believe unconditionally that the
New England Patriots have done nothing inappropriate in this
process that were in violation of NFL rules," Kraft said Jan.
26. "Tom, Bill and I have been together for 15 years. They are
my guys. They are part of my family, and Bill, Tom and I have
had many difficult discussions over the years, and I have never
known them to lie to me. That is why I am confident in saying
what I just said.
"It bothers me greatly that their reputations and integrity and,
by association, that of our team, has been called into question."
***
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2015/05/06/def
lategate-bill-belichick-tom-brady-underinflated-balls-robert-
kraft-new-england-colts/22216585/
Other than you being an idiot, there's not much interesting about the
whole thing. Well, unless you're the media and I'm pretty sure you're
not the media. However, whine on since it's the off season there's
not much else to do.
Not much interesting in a suspension for Brady? I think you don't
actually believe that... you just don't know what else to say.
I believe the wording of the report - "more probable than not" - is
enough to assign guilt, but not enough to justify suspension. Brady and
NE may be fined, maybe lose a draft pick, but I'm uncertain on
suspension. Not saying that's what I WANT to happen. Just that's what
I anticipate.
euphemism
2015-05-09 16:52:32 UTC
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On Wed, 6 May 2015 22:52:23 +0200 (CEST), "Cheat 2 Compete"
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Coach Cheater escapes again.
An investigation into the so-called Deflategate scandal
concluded it is more likely than not that New England Patriots
quarterback Tom Brady "was at least generally aware of the
inappropriate activities" by two team employees that resulted in
balls being deflated in January's AFC Championship Game against
the Indianapolis Colts.
The report, released Wednesday by attorney Ted Wells, found "it
is more probable than not that Jim McNally and John Jastremski
participated in a deliberate plan to circumvent the rules by
releasing air from Patriots game balls," but found no wrongdoing
by Patriots ownership, coach Bill Belichick and his assistants,
or equipment manager Dave Schoenfeld.
Patriots owner Robert Kraft issued an immediate response, saying
the organization is disappointed by the report, which lacked
"any incontrovertible or hard evidence of deliberate deflation
of footballs" after a more than three-month investigation.
In a statement released in conjunction with the report,
Commissioner Roger Goodell said NFL executive vice president
Troy Vincent and his team "will consider what steps to take in
light of the report, both with respect to possible disciplinary
action and to any changes in protocols that are necessary to
avoid future incidents of this type.
PDF: Findings from Ted Wells Deflategate investigation
"At the same time, we will continue our efforts vigorously to
protect the integrity of the game and promote fair play at all
times."
Asked for comment, the Colts had little to day, offering: "The
Indianapolis Colts are aware of the findings in the Wells Report
and have no comment."
The report includes text messages between McNally, the 48-year-
old officials locker room attendant for the Patriots, and
Jastremski, a 35-year-old equipment assistant, in which McNally
outs himself "the deflator" and the two friends discuss Brady's
complaints about the inflation level of game balls in an Oct. 17
game against the New York Jets.
Brady, 37, signed autographs for the pair after the Patriots'
divisional playoff win against the Baltimore Ravens in January,
the report said, and communicated with McNally by phone or text
message "with significantly increased frequency" in the days
after suspicions arose publicly — conversations that were then
shared in texts between McNally and Jastremski.
The report notes "there is less direct evidence linking Brady to
tampering activities than either McNally or Jastremski." But
after interviews with those two, investigators "do not believe
that they would personally and unilaterally engage in such
conduct in the absence of Brady?s awareness and consent."
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Most of the balls New England used in the first half of the AFC
title game against the Colts fell below the league-mandated
threshold of 12.5 pounds per square inch, theoretically making
them easier to grip in adverse weather conditions.
Colts general manager Ryan Grigson confirmed at the NFL's
scouting combine in February that his team alerted the league to
its concern during the week prior to the game.
The Patriots vigorously defended themselves in the days
following their 45-7 defeat of the Colts. Both Belichick and
Brady denied any wrongdoing or knowledge of the underinflated
balls.
"I would never do anything to break the rules," Brady said at
the time. "I believe in fair play, and I respect the league."
Kraft defiantly touted the integrity of Brady and Belichick when
the team arrived in Arizona for Super Bowl XLIX and made it
clear he expected an apology from the league in the event the
Patriots were absolved of any wrongdoing.
"I want to make it clear that I believe unconditionally that the
New England Patriots have done nothing inappropriate in this
process that were in violation of NFL rules," Kraft said Jan.
26. "Tom, Bill and I have been together for 15 years. They are
my guys. They are part of my family, and Bill, Tom and I have
had many difficult discussions over the years, and I have never
known them to lie to me. That is why I am confident in saying
what I just said.
"It bothers me greatly that their reputations and integrity and,
by association, that of our team, has been called into question."
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2015/05/06/def
lategate-bill-belichick-tom-brady-underinflated-balls-robert-
kraft-new-england-colts/22216585/
Other than you being an idiot, there's not much interesting about the
whole thing. Well, unless you're the media and I'm pretty sure you're
not the media. However, whine on since it's the off season there's
not much else to do.
Not much interesting in a suspension for Brady? I think you don't
actually believe that... you just don't know what else to say.
I believe the wording of the report - "more probable than not" - is
enough to assign guilt, but not enough to justify suspension. Brady and
NE may be fined, maybe lose a draft pick, but I'm uncertain on
suspension. Not saying that's what I WANT to happen. Just that's what
I anticipate.
He's GOING to be suspended... check the headlines. The raging debate
is over what the period will be.

What the report makes clear is that there's no way Brady didn't know
what was going on. Who the fuck do people believe requested the
deflation in the first place.
HVAC
2015-05-10 11:54:55 UTC
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What the report makes clear is that there's no way Brady didn't know
what was going on. Who the fuck do people believe requested the
deflation in the first place.
Aaron Rodgers says he tries to slip OVER inflated footballs past the
refs. Shall he go unpunished? Why the double standard with all you
completely unbiased fans?
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J Lunis
2015-05-10 12:32:02 UTC
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What the report makes clear is that there's no way Brady didn't know
what was going on. Who the fuck do people believe requested the
deflation in the first place.
Aaron Rodgers says he tries to slip OVER inflated footballs past the
refs. Shall he go unpunished? Why the double standard with all you
completely unbiased fans?
If Rogers is on record AND there is a preponderance of evidence, yes.
John W Gintell
2015-05-10 14:44:35 UTC
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What the report makes clear is that there's no way Brady didn't know
what was going on. Who the fuck do people believe requested the
deflation in the first place.
Aaron Rodgers says he tries to slip OVER inflated footballs past the
refs. Shall he go unpunished? Why the double standard with all you
completely unbiased fans?
If Rogers is on record AND there is a preponderance of evidence, yes.
It's time to change the process so that team employees don't have possession of
the balls at all. Then this problem can't happen again.
Deadmeat
2015-05-10 14:54:04 UTC
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What the report makes clear is that there's no way Brady didn't know
what was going on. Who the fuck do people believe requested the
deflation in the first place.
Aaron Rodgers says he tries to slip OVER inflated footballs past the
refs. Shall he go unpunished? Why the double standard with all you
completely unbiased fans?
If Rogers is on record AND there is a preponderance of evidence, yes.
It's time to change the process so that team employees don't have
possession of the balls at all. Then this problem can't happen again.
It's amazing how many rules have been changed thanks to the patsies.
euphemism
2015-05-10 17:08:15 UTC
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What the report makes clear is that there's no way Brady didn't know
what was going on. Who the fuck do people believe requested the
deflation in the first place.
Aaron Rodgers says he tries to slip OVER inflated footballs past the
refs. Shall he go unpunished? Why the double standard with all you
completely unbiased fans?
If Aaron is cheating then he should also be punished. Who are you
accusing of what? WE don't punish anyone... the league does. Write
your whiny notes to Roger.

This is really getting you upset HVAC. You need a vacation. At least
maybe you should cross post to fewer groups.
IYM
2015-05-11 11:24:33 UTC
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What the report makes clear is that there's no way Brady didn't know
what was going on. Who the fuck do people believe requested the
deflation in the first place.
Aaron Rodgers says he tries to slip OVER inflated footballs past the
refs. Shall he go unpunished? Why the double standard with all you
completely unbiased fans?
Kennedy was well known through rumors to have had mistresses and "was
most probably" not the first president to get a blow job in the oval
office...Bill Clinton did too, but got caught....Aaron Rodgers didn't
get caught - Tom Brady did....

...or - You sped on your way to work or unemployment line this morning,
and so did the guy next to you - You got pulled over and he didn't -
Whine and cry, or just man up, take your fine/punishment and move on.
The Pats are going to claim "not guilty" on the ticket and go cry to the
judge about how it's not fair. Anyone who goes to traffic court knows
how that usually turns out ......Simple enough?
HVAC
2015-05-12 11:37:33 UTC
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...or - You sped on your way to work or unemployment line this morning,
and so did the guy next to you - You got pulled over and he didn't -
Whine and cry, or just man up, take your fine/punishment and move on.
The Pats are going to claim "not guilty" on the ticket and go cry to the
judge about how it's not fair. Anyone who goes to traffic court knows
how that usually turns out ......Simple enough?
Yes. I have decided that this suspension is a good thing.

Thank you Rodger!
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HAIL HYDRA!
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