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Caught cheating again ... Deflated ball investigation to be concluded in next 2-3 days
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NE Patriots Cheating Again
2015-01-21 07:09:36 UTC
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It’s well known that the NFL is investigating whether the
Patriots violated the rules regarding the inflation of footballs
in Sunday’s AFC title game against the Colts. It’s now also
known that the investigation will end fairly soon.

Appearing on Tuesday’s PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio, NFL
executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent confirmed
that the league is investigating the situation. He disclosed
that it won’t take much longer.

“We’re hoping to wrap that up in the next two or three days,”
Vincent said. “The team is in place in New England now
interviewing staff members.”

Vincent didn’t specify when decisions will be made or punishment
imposed.

“We obviously want to get that on the table, get that behind us
so that we can really get back to the game itself.”

So why is this being treated as such a big deal?

“For a fan, you want to know that everything’s equal,” Vincent
said. “The integrity of the game is so important.”

Anything that impacts the integrity of the game is important,
even if it seems trivial or meaningless, especially in a game
that was destined to be a blowout. That’s why the NFL is
investigating — and that’s why harsh consequences will be meted
out if the league determines that a violation occurred.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/20/deflated-ball-
investigation-to-be-concluded-in-next-2-3-days/

 
Dänk 42Ø
2015-01-22 04:09:08 UTC
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It�s well known that the NFL is investigating whether the
Patriots violated the rules regarding the inflation of footballs
in Sunday�s AFC title game against the Colts. It�s now also
known that the investigation will end fairly soon.
I dislike sports, but it seems to me that this form of cheating
could have been avoided by letting neutral third-parties provide
the balls, rather than the teams themselves. The NFL is raking
in billions of dollars in profits, and it can't afford a few
hundred per game to purchase footballs from an unbiased source?
Kurt Ullman
2015-01-22 12:23:51 UTC
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Post by Dänk 42Ø
It?s well known that the NFL is investigating whether the
Patriots violated the rules regarding the inflation of footballs
in Sunday?s AFC title game against the Colts. It?s now also
known that the investigation will end fairly soon.
I dislike sports, but it seems to me that this form of cheating
could have been avoided by letting neutral third-parties provide
the balls, rather than the teams themselves. The NFL is raking
in billions of dollars in profits, and it can't afford a few
hundred per game to purchase footballs from an unbiased source?
The NFL buys the balls, inflates them, checks before the game and then
turns them over to the teams for use throughout the game. What they need
to do is keep them under the control of an NFL employee.
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but what they conceal is vital.”
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Kirby Grant
2015-01-22 17:57:40 UTC
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Post by Dänk 42Ø
Itï¿œs well known that the NFL is investigating whether the
Patriots violated the rules regarding the inflation of footballs
in Sundayï¿œs AFC title game against the Colts. Itï¿œs now also
known that the investigation will end fairly soon.
I dislike sports, but it seems to me that this form of cheating
could have been avoided by letting neutral third-parties provide
the balls, rather than the teams themselves. The NFL is raking
in billions of dollars in profits, and it can't afford a few
hundred per game to purchase footballs from an unbiased source?
What is more troublesome is that anyone is even concerned about all of this.
Will the sun not rise if an NFL team is caught cheating? It isn't as if
cheating in so-called "professional" sports is illegal. That people are even
wasting time with finger-pointing and talk about punishments indicates that
there are a whole lot of people who have nothing better to do with their
time. It is boring. I stopped watching any form of "professional" sports
over fifteen years ago because I was tired of wasting my time.
Marten Kemp
2015-01-23 01:10:07 UTC
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Post by Dänk 42Ø
It�s well known that the NFL is investigating whether the
Patriots violated the rules regarding the inflation of footballs
in Sunday�s AFC title game against the Colts. It�s now also
known that the investigation will end fairly soon.
I dislike sports, but it seems to me that this form of cheating
could have been avoided by letting neutral third-parties provide
the balls, rather than the teams themselves. The NFL is raking
in billions of dollars in profits, and it can't afford a few
hundred per game to purchase footballs from an unbiased source?
Hmmm. I call bullshit. Underinflated balls would affect both
the Patriots and the Colts.
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Kurt Ullman
2015-01-23 12:20:03 UTC
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Post by Dänk 42Ø
It?s well known that the NFL is investigating whether the
Patriots violated the rules regarding the inflation of footballs
in Sunday?s AFC title game against the Colts. It?s now also
known that the investigation will end fairly soon.
I dislike sports, but it seems to me that this form of cheating
could have been avoided by letting neutral third-parties provide
the balls, rather than the teams themselves. The NFL is raking
in billions of dollars in profits, and it can't afford a few
hundred per game to purchase footballs from an unbiased source?
Hmmm. I call bullshit. Underinflated balls would affect both
the Patriots and the Colts.
Each team get their balls (so to speak) after an inspection by the NFL.
ALL of the Colt's balls were properly inflated. Only 1 of 12 for the
Pats.
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“Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
but what they conceal is vital.”
— Aaron Levenstein
John W Gintell
2015-01-23 16:27:06 UTC
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Post by Kurt Ullman
Post by Marten Kemp
Post by Dänk 42Ø
It?s well known that the NFL is investigating whether the
Patriots violated the rules regarding the inflation of footballs
in Sunday?s AFC title game against the Colts. It?s now also
known that the investigation will end fairly soon.
I dislike sports, but it seems to me that this form of cheating
could have been avoided by letting neutral third-parties provide
the balls, rather than the teams themselves. The NFL is raking
in billions of dollars in profits, and it can't afford a few
hundred per game to purchase footballs from an unbiased source?
Hmmm. I call bullshit. Underinflated balls would affect both
the Patriots and the Colts.
Each team get their balls (so to speak) after an inspection by the NFL.
ALL of the Colt's balls were properly inflated. Only 1 of 12 for the
Pats.
I point out that this statement about the ball status is the only fact we know.
Everything else is speculation.
Marc Dashevsky
2015-01-23 17:38:03 UTC
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Post by Kurt Ullman
Post by Marten Kemp
Post by Dänk 42Ø
It?s well known that the NFL is investigating whether the
Patriots violated the rules regarding the inflation of footballs
in Sunday?s AFC title game against the Colts. It?s now also
known that the investigation will end fairly soon.
I dislike sports, but it seems to me that this form of cheating
could have been avoided by letting neutral third-parties provide
the balls, rather than the teams themselves. The NFL is raking
in billions of dollars in profits, and it can't afford a few
hundred per game to purchase footballs from an unbiased source?
Hmmm. I call bullshit. Underinflated balls would affect both
the Patriots and the Colts.
Each team get their balls (so to speak) after an inspection by the NFL.
ALL of the Colt's balls were properly inflated. Only 1 of 12 for the
Pats.
I had not heard that the pressure of the Colts' balls was measured.
Can you point me reliable source?
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Kurt Ullman
2015-01-23 20:06:46 UTC
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Post by Marc Dashevsky
I had not heard that the pressure of the Colts' balls was measured.
Can you point me reliable source?
Check out about any story after the first day or two. It was on EPSN,
the NFL channel, saw it on my local channel (News 4 in Miami) .

"Based on the complaint, the refs re-examined all 24 balls at halftime.
The Colts' balls were all still within the specs, but 11 of the 12 Pats'
balls were under-inflated by up to two pounds per square inch - i.e.,
about 10.5 pounds. It was unseasonably mild for Foxboro, Mass., in
January - about 51 degrees. Between that and the fact that the Colts'
footballs were unchanged, there seems to be no weather-related
explanation for a drop in air pressure in the Pats' footballs."
This was in the National Review (just happened to be the first one
I pulled from the list.
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"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
but what they conceal is vital."
-- Aaron Levenstein
Patrick McNamara
2015-01-26 17:12:28 UTC
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It probably had more to do with the ballboy or whoever not doing their job
properly.
Post by Marc Dashevsky
I had not heard that the pressure of the Colts' balls was measured.
Can you point me reliable source?
Check out about any story after the first day or two. It was on EPSN,
the NFL channel, saw it on my local channel (News 4 in Miami) .

"Based on the complaint, the refs re-examined all 24 balls at halftime.
The Colts' balls were all still within the specs, but 11 of the 12 Pats'
balls were under-inflated by up to two pounds per square inch - i.e.,
about 10.5 pounds. It was unseasonably mild for Foxboro, Mass., in
January - about 51 degrees. Between that and the fact that the Colts'
footballs were unchanged, there seems to be no weather-related
explanation for a drop in air pressure in the Pats' footballs."
This was in the National Review (just happened to be the first one
I pulled from the list.
--
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
but what they conceal is vital."
-- Aaron Levenstein
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